Jul 17, 2014

Warping wefting weaving, oh my!

Hi all.  When I was cutting into the linen yardage, I wondered which way the sampler should be positioned.  Should I measure the width out from the selvage so the length would be parallel to it?  That's what I always assumed.  But what about all those small pieces that give no hint of edge?  Since I have found only little information on this, it can't be important.  If it was, every instructional book and website would make mention of it but if they have, it is not easily found.  I did find one, in Shay Pendray's  Needleworker's Companion (Amazon).  In one small segment she talks about the direction of stitching and suggests that you should follow the grain (direction) of the canvas.  That means keeping the selvage edge on the sides, not top or bottom, claiming the stitch will lie flat with wide coverage.  If you don't see the selvage, pull one vertical and one horizontal thread from the linen.  One will be more crinkled - the warp thread.  So the crinkled linen threads should run top to bottom, and the smoother from side to side.  I also read that warps are harder to pull from fabric and weft pulls easily.   This is because the warps are tightly stretched and are the core foundation of the weave, while the weft is woven through with less tension.  Easy to remember - weft runs left.  The selvage runs the same as the warp, top to bottom and is created from the weft wrapping the edge to continue the weave.
  This is the way they used to cut yardage at my LNS years ago.  Most pieces included the selvage.
 Seems like the only way to do it.  So the 18" side on a 13 x 18 piece would run the same as the selvage, and that would be ideal. But a larger sampler requiring a fat quarter or long half would have the selvage edge to the top/bottom, not the side. This may be important for serious stitchers but I am the opposite.  Especially with smaller projects, I have no intention on checking the warpy wefts. I use whatever size fits the project and honestly, I don't know why I questioned it in the first place.  So I say get wild and stitch dangerously!  Grab that linen and turn it whichever way you would like.  You already knew this anyway.
And just so you don't think I make up paint stories, I went to the store for more this morning, same formula SAME formula.  This small board shows what I brought home compared to the finished frames and doors.

I am not crazy.  This is lighter, pinker, and the doors painted in this will NOT match. The label matches the other!!  I am out of Dove after this one.
My heart design is coming along nicely and I will start the stitch this evening.
Enjoy your day!
Thanks for visiting.


Pam in IL said...

Warp & weft, it makes perfect sense when I read your post, but as soon as I go into my craft room and look at my fabric, my mind is a blank, lol. I'm like you though, I don't really care which way is which.

I think you better head to the chocolate aisle ASAP! Would another coat make them match better?

Sandra Sullivan said...

Great info Marly~ Now, what in the world are you going to do about your paint?

Maggee said...

Like you said, I also use whatever piece fits the design. Warp Weft--whatever! Dang it about the paint! I do see pink in it!! Same store? Same salesperson?? I/We would be bringing that back!! Good luck! Hugs!

Barbara Shores ~ Village Folk Art said...

Mee too ... makes no difference. I did not know about this stuff. I have so much to learn and thanks for the education. Not sure I will put it to use but am glad to know.
Ooops so sorry about that paint. Yup, "Life is not Fair".

Barb said...

I use whatever way I can get it on the linen that I am using. I'm sure I have done it the "wrong" way.You must be so frustrated about the paint!!

Truus said...

I'm using my fabric in the same way as you are doing,although I asked myself if it was wrong/right.
Wil the paint be a little darker after a day? Sometimes it does dries darker than when it is fresh paint.
Good luck with your painting and I hope it will turn in the right way.
greetings,Truus from the Netherlands

diamondc said...

Thank-you for the info on the fabric.
I have found each person mixes paint differently, I donot understand why such a differece, I hope your painting woes soon pass, it must tough.


Margaret said...

Very interesting! I should have known you would find the answer to that eternal question. Now did you find the answer to "which side of the linen is the right side?" lol! Bummer about the paint. Ugh.

Karen Martinsen said...

Morning Marly - well this was a very interesting post.
I used to know what warp and welt was but forgot till this post. I thank you so much and I have to agree with you about how you work on it. I do the same with my Osnaburg fabric for my runners...what ever size I have and if it works I use it.

Oh the paint...we ran into that 2 weeks ago with paint for the family room trim. We wanted to use the same color for our bathroom cabinets. Husband took the formula piece from the original can, plus the old can and purchased another quart. Got it home and it was entirely different. Fortunately I was going to mix the 2 cans together and glad I checked first beause they were way off. He left out 2 squirts of color!!! Yikes.
Hope you got yours fixed.

C. M. Designs said...

I like your sentence that says "This may be important for serious stitchers, but I am the opposite.
You are a far more serious stitcher than I am, but this makes me feel better..
I'd be so upset about the paint color.. I'm sure you are too. Could you take a door with you to the store and have them match the color that way ?
I think they need to "eat" their OOPs cans.
Best wishes and good luck.

Ele said...

Great tip, thank you!
I had never really paid attention to the way I orient my fabric, but I know that when I stitch over one sometimes I have a feeingl there is something wrong. Guess it depends on the direction of fibers!

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